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I have been thinking about winter tyres for years (I suspect I am not alone) but have yet to make a decision - positive one that is! This months AE has a compelling double page advert for Vredestein Quatrac 3 which can be had for 18" wheels for about £200 each. Have looked at some reviews which as usual are fairly mixed, but they do appear to perform well out of the 'all season' bracket.Anybody out there with experience of all season tyres that can help me make a decision (Tyreman?) ? It may be that at this price I would be better in the longer term with a set of winter tyres / wheels ...
Apologies if I've missed any previous threads on the subject, but couldn't find anything with a quick search.
 

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I've been thinking about them too, in fact I'm very tempted to replace mine with all-seasons tyres when they come up for change. It'll be interesting to see what the Q3 is like this winter on standard tyres, but I'd feel happier with all-seasons. Living down in the bottom right-hand corner of Olde Englande I don't think I'd be able to justify the cost or annoyance of changing to & from full winter tyres, but the all-seasons option sounds to me like a good compromise.

Like you, I'd welcome some expert opinion or experience of them.
 

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I fitted Quatrac 3's on my previous car (Vw Golf) I found them to be a very good, beingan all season tyre they are a compromise and Initially found the not as sharp as my low profile Michelin Pilot primacy's, but soon got used to them. In the snow last year I was very impressed and would recommend them, they are much better than standard tyres in snow. What swayed me was the Auto Expressreview which at the time considered them to be the best all season tyres available.
 

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Have not had personal experience or customer feedback on the Vredestein.
Logically the UK is an all season market as temperature wise we almost need "summer" tyres half the year and "winter" tyres the other half. As most of you already know winter tyres function best at 7 degrees and below. It should be borne in mind that peak daytime temperatures even at this time of year is higher than that. But I would guess most journeys are to work early in the day and coming home later. Parked in the car park at work when this peak temperature is reached. Hence the fifty fifty argument.
Personally I do change to winter tyres, Dunlop Winter Response 2 this time as it happens. Not the Q3 though, don't use it in bad weather. Sk*d* R**mst*r does work journeys and those days!

To return to the original point I have had feedback on other makes of all season tyres Kleber, Bridgestone and Pirelli. Customers felt safer and more confident on winter roads compared to the years they didn't change tyres. How do I know? They change back to summer tyres as quite a few "winter tyres" marketed here are really all season. In more northern countries nearly all the winter tyres sold in the UK would be considered all season. To them proper winter tyres have holes to put the studs in! Illegal in the UK if you're considering it now! The only official tyre sidewall marking is if you can see a three peaked mountain symbol with snow flakes. Any tyre with that will work better in winter. Minor word of caution some Chinese manufactured tyres have an approximation of this symbol not the official one. Audi owners inc the careful with money Gromit are all probably too wealthy to be running the risk of that purchase. Just M+S on a sidewall without the 3 peaks is virtually meaningless hence the introduction of the 3 peaks to mark the suitability for winter.

In short more suitable tyres make a difference.

I'll throw a curved ball to finish "winter" tyres need 4mm and above of tread depth to function properly.
 

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Interesting - thanks a lot for that, Tyreman. What I'd be even more interested to find out is if there is a downside to fitting all-seasons tyres and using them all year round. Road noise? Harsher ride? greater wear? Poorer summer performance? All/none of the above? (Delete where applicable!)
 

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Interesting - thanks a lot for that, Tyreman. What I'd be even more interested to find out is if there is a downside to fitting all-seasons tyres and using them all year round.

I thought we already have them in the UK when the car new.

I know this sounds stupid but you need to inform your insurance company that you have changed you tyre to winter one's

I would love to fit winter tyre's but covering less than 5000 miles with my last car in 3 years its expensive

If I had the money I would buy the rims as well as the tyres and buy rims that can fit multi stud patterns so I could fit them to a new car made by a different company

How long do tyre's last (lifetime) in years?
 

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Interesting - thanks a lot for that, Tyreman.  What I'd be even more interested to find out is if there is a downside to fitting all-seasons tyres and using them all year round.  Road noise? Harsher ride? greater wear?  Poorer summer performance? All/none of the above?  (Delete where applicable!)
Thanks also Tyreman. Gromits thoughts are similar to mine (did I really just say that!). I have some time before needing replacements so will do a bit more research and possibly give them a try next time. Is it possible to replace the fronts only, for example, with all season? Any further input from members welcome. Edited by: Exiledtaff
 

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It really depends on your location and how much driving
you NEED to do.

All-season tyres are a compromise and don't perform as
well as the best summer tyres in summer conditions or as well as really good
winter tyres in cold conditions.



As I have mentioned before it is law for us to fit
winter tyres from November through to April. I have 2 sets of rims with both
summer and winter tyres fitted and swap them over accordingly. Winter tyres
only start to function properly in temp. below 7 degrees. My Q3 is FWD and with
a good set of winter tyres I have never NOT been able to get where I need to go
to.



One of the main problems is drivers don't know how to
drive in icy or snowy conditions and just because they have a 4x4 or winter
tyres doesn't mean they can drive at the same speed as they would in normal
conditions.
 

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I have never used all-season tyres but do switch to winter tyres. Until recent purchase of my Q3 we always fitted them to my wifes Ford Galaxy and what a difference they made. 2WD and no problems at all. Living in a remote part of East Yorkshire we regularly get cold, snowy winter days. Fitting winter tyres has meant that no matter how bad the weather we have never got stuck, well as long as we didn't use my old beemer
which in the slightest snow was the most frightening thing I have ever driven, and I have done a fair bit of motorsport. Now I have a Q3 it is all kitted out with a set of winter tyres, Dunlop WinterSport 4D, and so should, fingers crossed, be ready for whatever comes our way.
 

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Can I chuck my thoughts in here?

I have personal experience of Vredestein winter tyres, having them on a Nissan I owned a few years ago and needed to drive in Germany during wintertime. They are, I believe, a Dutch make and I can confirm they were excellent in really bad conditions.

My winter wheels (purchased from DBQ3 of this forum) will be fitted on Wednesday and we are heading to Germany a few days later. I will report on handling and noise in a few weeks.

There's still hardly any mileage on the Q3 but it drives like a dream. Got the OH behind the wheel today for the first time and it was like a duck to water!
 
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